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friedemann
Germany
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 Posted - 06/10/2005 : 09:59:42
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The groove section of "Green Thumb" is really hard to nail because the correct muting is so essential. The best TAB-rendition of the song I've seen so far is by Dr.Tadpole. However I have one comment on that: If you look closely on the woodshed tape, you'll see that TE frets the Aadd2 in a very awkward way (A on the G-string: with index and E on the D-string: with middle finger). But this makes perfect sense because he now can mute the upper strings with his fretting hand pinky. So the muting is actually not (or at least not only) a palm mute as indicated in the TAB of Dr.Tadpole but a left hand muting. You know it's easy to play the notes but to nail TEs groove is damn difficult and there the devil is really in the detail. For those who struggle with the song may I suggest you try TEs fingering and mute the B and E strings with the left hand pinky,
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Dr Tadpole
Italy
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Posted - 06/13/2005 : 05:13:18
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Friedemann,
you're completely right for what concerns the way Tommy plays the intro of Green Thumb. I usually don't like to type in fingering 'cause I think that everybody should find out his own ones, but in this case I should have done it.
I had an e-mail exchange with Harald regarding this topic.
I think Tommy uses a combination of both palm mute and "left hand" mute that's quite unusual and requires a lot of practicing in order to become fluent.
Thanks again
Giorgio "Dr Tadpole" |
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friedemann
Germany
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Posted - 06/14/2005 : 03:34:03
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Hi Giorgio,
thanks for your comment. I started this thread because I had been struggeling for a while to make the section sound right, in fact I had started an earlier thread on the "old" website before the overhaul. I always thought that the muting would be executed by the right hands i, m and a fingers until I saw a closeup on the woodshed tape. After trying the alternative fingering it really clicked and now it sounds so much better.
Another example where the devil is in the detail is the groove section of "A little Mark Musik" by Chet (On "almost alone") where most of the tabs I found did not get it completely right. The correct version is in the transcription by John Knowles. BTW, I'd love to hear TE play that incredibly groovy piece.
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GATORBUTT
USA
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Posted - 06/23/2005 : 09:55:54
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| Friedmann, Thanks for the tip on "Green Thumb". Can you tell me what you ment by "woodshed tape", where you saw Tommy fingering that song? I'm not familiar with any video that includes that tune. |
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GATORBUTT
USA
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Posted - 06/23/2005 : 10:07:24
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| Friedemann, Nevermind. I should have read the news part of the website first. I just joined. Thanks. |
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No1FanInCornwall
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/02/2005 : 05:32:03
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| So where is the reference to the woodshed tape in the News section? I want it!! |
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Pete
United Kingdom
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ajwgtr
Australia
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Posted - 09/17/2007 : 10:58:31
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Hi - this is an old thread I was looking at - seeing as I just started to have a go at 'Green Thumb'.
Freidmann - Can you explain exactly what you mean by the LH pinky muting ?, I've watched the woodsong version a number of times - and can't really see that he's doing anything with the pinky, other than that its quite high over the strings, maybe I'm missing something.
What part of the bar(s) is he muting, with that technique, in that opening groove ?
I agree - it's a 'hard' groove to really nail, So I'm not disputing what you're saying, I've played for many many years - and never really thought about wether I mute with the fretting hand or not, I guess in some instances it's natural that you do, without thinking.
I've always taught my students to play an A chord with the index finger playing the A on the 3rd string - so It doesn't seem such an awkward shape for me to think about.
The hardest thing I find in the song is the thumb playing the B on the 5th string in that Bm7 chord in the main theme, and getting it cleanly, plus the little 2nd string trill whilst holding on the C#m7 - right after the F#m .
anyway ....great forum
this is my first post
Aaron
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z_charron
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Posted - 09/25/2007 : 08:43:37
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I think I've got the 'groove' part going pretty well (not that there aren't other things wrong!). Check out my pinky in the video, muting the E and B strings. Hope this helps and good luck!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdCFmBTl0zc |
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groove section of Green thumb
